vdlrao
06-11 03:24 AM
Sorry to hear that. But there would be options all the time. Can you please eloberate What happened?
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forever_waiting
04-22 07:13 PM
Ok. But how does this apply to immigration?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
On the page you quote, below is what I see -
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice enforces federal laws that prohibit discrimination in:
Education
Employment
Housing
Lending
Public Accommodations
Law Enforcement / Police Misconduct
Voting
The "per-country limit" is definitely unfair within the realm of employment-based immigration due to the outdated and irrelevant law which needs reform. However skewing this to make it a civil rights issue is pushing it a bit too much.
So coming back to Immigration (which is what, I believe, we are discussing), below is what I came across on congress.gov.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Congressional power to regulate naturalization, from Article 1, Section 8, includes the power to regulate immigration (see, for example, Hampton v. Mow Sun Wong, 426 U.S. 88 [1976]
In other words, the Constitution does not specifically mention immigration but based on the above, delegates power to the Congress to pass laws to regulate immigration. This Article of the Constitution also clarifies the part about rules for immigrants and quotas being set at the Federal level and not State level.
The above is a fact, not my opinion. Therefore, No - I do not agree that your reasoning has any direct parallel to our case since the correct approach and reasoning involves challenging a Supreme Court Ruling on Article 1 of the Constitution, which you would agree is next to impossible.
Thanks for asking this. I found this: Civil Rights Division Home Page (http://www.justice.gov/crt/legalinfo/natorigin.php)
IMO, rather useful in our discussion, though not relating to the constitution. But if you insist, I might point you to the 14th amendment ...
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion)
Read the "Equal protection clause". It mentions this case:
The Court has also struck down redistricting plans in which race was a key consideration. In Shaw v. Reno (1993), the Court prohibited a North Carolina plan aimed at creating majority-black districts to balance historic underrepresentation in the state's congressional delegations
Do you agree that we can draw a direct parallel of this case to our case, where they are segregating visa numbers based on the country of origin?
wandmaker
06-02 12:17 PM
called all of them, updated the poll.
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gjoe
01-30 05:22 PM
I think the link provided here take to the page where questions are not sorted by either popularity or most recent ( which I assumed initially). I might be wrong.
If anyone has a direct link to the question, please PM me and I will modify the first post to replace the link.
Thanks
If anyone has a direct link to the question, please PM me and I will modify the first post to replace the link.
Thanks
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akred
07-14 07:31 PM
Guests and members,
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
FSL
08-27 12:23 PM
I am hoping atleast it will move forward and not backwards....
Dec 2001 is my guess. Hopefully, it will continue to move as the year progresses...
what DEC 2001 ? Is this for India China or rest of the world?
Dec 2001 is my guess. Hopefully, it will continue to move as the year progresses...
what DEC 2001 ? Is this for India China or rest of the world?
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Vexir
05-31 03:12 PM
You are right only 1 entry is allowed, but I thought I would just show the rest as examples for those who haven't yet sat down and whipped one out.
:P I think the worst one should be submitted so we have a chance against your badass design skillz. :ko:
:P I think the worst one should be submitted so we have a chance against your badass design skillz. :ko:
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Rajeev
01-31 02:16 PM
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cool_guy_onnet1
05-24 01:07 PM
:eek:
Dude, you have no Idea, I calculated this morning and I have spent.......
$56,500 on Green card (20% of my salary for last 3 years) + lawyers and other $hit.. Let Emplyers pay this.
Dude, you have no Idea, I calculated this morning and I have spent.......
$56,500 on Green card (20% of my salary for last 3 years) + lawyers and other $hit.. Let Emplyers pay this.
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caliguy
09-16 08:41 PM
seekerofpeace - I hope they have not lost my file. I have not been able to get a concrete answer so far as to what is happening with my file.
My attorney had filed 140s for in EB2/EB3 and I hope they have not taken my app and classified it as EB3. We sent the EB2 I-140 with the AOS app so I dont think that would happen but stranger things have happened with USCIS.
Response that I got from the local senator and from what I read in the other thread you created, I think visa numbers are over for 2009 fiscal year. We will now have to wait until October. I dont mind waiting until October, but I want to use the next 15 days doing whatever I can, so atleast in October, I have some chance of getting approved.
Good luck to you, hope everyone who is waiting gets the good news soon.
My attorney had filed 140s for in EB2/EB3 and I hope they have not taken my app and classified it as EB3. We sent the EB2 I-140 with the AOS app so I dont think that would happen but stranger things have happened with USCIS.
Response that I got from the local senator and from what I read in the other thread you created, I think visa numbers are over for 2009 fiscal year. We will now have to wait until October. I dont mind waiting until October, but I want to use the next 15 days doing whatever I can, so atleast in October, I have some chance of getting approved.
Good luck to you, hope everyone who is waiting gets the good news soon.
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legal_alien_007
04-26 02:55 PM
You are right. L1s are paid shit and are not given proper insurance. Once L1 guy got sick and he went to Doctor and pharmacy, Pharmacy charged him $250 coz they wont take the shitty insurance (some Indian Insurance), L1s are being absued a lot
TNMan,
I feel sorry for your situation and you seem to be under a lot of stress. However lets show some civility in our discourse and not make this a blame game.
When an american loses his job, he feels exactly the same way as you do, except that he doesn't really distinguish a H1-B from an L1.
Replace 'L1' with 'H1-B' in your comments and see how they look,
""You are right. H1-Bs are paid shit and are not given proper insurance. Once H1-B guy got sick and he went to Doctor and pharmacy, Pharmacy charged him $250 coz they wont take the shitty insurance (some Indian Insurance), H1-Bs are being abused a lot""
Lets work together to stop the abuses in the system.
Remember that at the end, the solution should be fair to all the parties involved - immigrants, americans and the corporations.
TNMan,
I feel sorry for your situation and you seem to be under a lot of stress. However lets show some civility in our discourse and not make this a blame game.
When an american loses his job, he feels exactly the same way as you do, except that he doesn't really distinguish a H1-B from an L1.
Replace 'L1' with 'H1-B' in your comments and see how they look,
""You are right. H1-Bs are paid shit and are not given proper insurance. Once H1-B guy got sick and he went to Doctor and pharmacy, Pharmacy charged him $250 coz they wont take the shitty insurance (some Indian Insurance), H1-Bs are being abused a lot""
Lets work together to stop the abuses in the system.
Remember that at the end, the solution should be fair to all the parties involved - immigrants, americans and the corporations.
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GCard_Dream
01-30 06:35 PM
- from immigration-law.com
After we reported this news, we learned that there were some readers who gravely misunderstood the "final" rule making process. They were confused with the "proposed" rule making process. In the final rule making process, there is no comment period before the rule takes effect. On the date when the final rule is published in the federal register, it becomes a binding rule and the rule-making process is complete. Certain provisions in the final rule may take effect on certain specific later date or dates, but the rule itself becomes a binding law on the date of publication of the rule in the federal register. Accordingly, unless the DOL changed the proposed rule, substitution of the beneficiary of the labor certification will be eliminated on the date of publication which includes the substitution of the beneficiary in the pending labor certification by amendment as well as the substitution of the beneficiary in the approved labor certification. For those who filed the substitution I-140 petition, the proposed rule provided that only "substitution approved" on the date of publication of the rule would survive. Substitution approved can be interpreted to mean approval of the substitution I-140 petition. For the 45-day validity of the certified labor certification, under the proposed rule, the certified labor certification on the date of publication was supposed to have 45 days to file the I-140 petitions. For the labor certifications which are approved after publication of the final rule must file the I-140 petitions within 45 days from the date of certification.
The DOL could have changed part of the proposed rules in the final rule and the readers are cautioned to wait for the release of the final rule before they jump into any conclusion and take a misguided action.
After we reported this news, we learned that there were some readers who gravely misunderstood the "final" rule making process. They were confused with the "proposed" rule making process. In the final rule making process, there is no comment period before the rule takes effect. On the date when the final rule is published in the federal register, it becomes a binding rule and the rule-making process is complete. Certain provisions in the final rule may take effect on certain specific later date or dates, but the rule itself becomes a binding law on the date of publication of the rule in the federal register. Accordingly, unless the DOL changed the proposed rule, substitution of the beneficiary of the labor certification will be eliminated on the date of publication which includes the substitution of the beneficiary in the pending labor certification by amendment as well as the substitution of the beneficiary in the approved labor certification. For those who filed the substitution I-140 petition, the proposed rule provided that only "substitution approved" on the date of publication of the rule would survive. Substitution approved can be interpreted to mean approval of the substitution I-140 petition. For the 45-day validity of the certified labor certification, under the proposed rule, the certified labor certification on the date of publication was supposed to have 45 days to file the I-140 petitions. For the labor certifications which are approved after publication of the final rule must file the I-140 petitions within 45 days from the date of certification.
The DOL could have changed part of the proposed rules in the final rule and the readers are cautioned to wait for the release of the final rule before they jump into any conclusion and take a misguided action.
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trueguy
08-20 02:56 PM
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crazyghoda
04-27 04:40 PM
My mom took ICICI from India when she visited last year. Thankfully we never needed to visit any doc or file any claims. This year my in-laws are coming over and my FIL's health hasnt been keeping well. I have thought about using the same ICICI I took last time since its considered a cashless policy.
Has anyone had any recent experiences (post 2007) with ICICI?
Has anyone had any recent experiences (post 2007) with ICICI?
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pmb76
07-16 06:52 PM
the revised version is more pointed.
Here are a few other points to consider and highlight:
- That the woes of legal high skilled immigrants are completely forgotten
- Despite the fact that they pay taxes, social security etc
- They represent a continued American heritage of immigrants chasing the Great American Dream
While H1B workers might appear to 'displace US workers', the crux of the issue is that in order for US companies to remain innovative and competitive they cannot afford to take a hoary protectionist policy in talent management.
High skilled talent finds level ground, wherever it might be.
While the old world order was about national boundaries and international competition amongst countries, the new world order is about a flat world where transnational collaboration and commerce can enable wealth and job creation in any part of the world!
The presence of high skilled foreign workers INSIDE the US
- ensures that jobs remain in the US
- ensures that resultant taxes remain in the US
- ensures that resultant investments target the US economy
- apart from ensuring US competitive and commercial advantage
The oft repeated arguments about 'local talent being available but not tapped' is borne out of a sense of elitist entitlement; something that runs counter to the great American Dream and the quest for constant innovation, creation, improvement and execution.
The need of the hour should be on how to enable successful assimilation of high skilled labor and talent into the US economy such that the economic engines of efficient productivity are not hampered by artificial tarrifs and barriers borne out of a broken immigration system.
The quest for a color-blind, talent-oriented, country-agnostic immigration system has a long and sometimes troubling, history.
While the old world afforded the luxury of years to rectify imblances and imperfections in policy constructs, the new world leaves little room for inefficient alignment of policies.
The need to fix a broken legal immigration system is as much an economic reality as it is to address detrimental effects in womens' rights (spouses' rights), labor rights and free markets.
Folks, Sorry, The petition can't be changed even if it has 1 signature. It has close to ~700. I plan to stick with this. This petition is about that particular show. You are free to start another petition highlighting general issues with Lou Dobbs.
Again we can have several petitions and send it to CNN. If we have enough numbers there will be ample pressure on Lou to state the facts.
As far as CNN hiring H1-Bs is concerned it is an example of exposing the double standards within Time Warner Inc. I believe this petition is going to make the intended impact. You are free not to sign it.
Here are a few other points to consider and highlight:
- That the woes of legal high skilled immigrants are completely forgotten
- Despite the fact that they pay taxes, social security etc
- They represent a continued American heritage of immigrants chasing the Great American Dream
While H1B workers might appear to 'displace US workers', the crux of the issue is that in order for US companies to remain innovative and competitive they cannot afford to take a hoary protectionist policy in talent management.
High skilled talent finds level ground, wherever it might be.
While the old world order was about national boundaries and international competition amongst countries, the new world order is about a flat world where transnational collaboration and commerce can enable wealth and job creation in any part of the world!
The presence of high skilled foreign workers INSIDE the US
- ensures that jobs remain in the US
- ensures that resultant taxes remain in the US
- ensures that resultant investments target the US economy
- apart from ensuring US competitive and commercial advantage
The oft repeated arguments about 'local talent being available but not tapped' is borne out of a sense of elitist entitlement; something that runs counter to the great American Dream and the quest for constant innovation, creation, improvement and execution.
The need of the hour should be on how to enable successful assimilation of high skilled labor and talent into the US economy such that the economic engines of efficient productivity are not hampered by artificial tarrifs and barriers borne out of a broken immigration system.
The quest for a color-blind, talent-oriented, country-agnostic immigration system has a long and sometimes troubling, history.
While the old world afforded the luxury of years to rectify imblances and imperfections in policy constructs, the new world leaves little room for inefficient alignment of policies.
The need to fix a broken legal immigration system is as much an economic reality as it is to address detrimental effects in womens' rights (spouses' rights), labor rights and free markets.
Folks, Sorry, The petition can't be changed even if it has 1 signature. It has close to ~700. I plan to stick with this. This petition is about that particular show. You are free to start another petition highlighting general issues with Lou Dobbs.
Again we can have several petitions and send it to CNN. If we have enough numbers there will be ample pressure on Lou to state the facts.
As far as CNN hiring H1-Bs is concerned it is an example of exposing the double standards within Time Warner Inc. I believe this petition is going to make the intended impact. You are free not to sign it.
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smartboy75
09-17 02:33 PM
Thats all he does !
One more Amendement by Mr King....after the vote
One more Amendement by Mr King....after the vote
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pou-pou
06-12 10:29 AM
because I'm a green lover here's a greenish from me (-:
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Hassan11
03-13 04:12 PM
this must be a change in USCIS policy since in the past the spill over from EB2 ROW went to EB3 ROW and then to India and China EB2.
USCIS must have changed their policy to help established the cutoff date for EB2 India. so now the spill over from EB2 ROW goes to China and India EB2
No, EB3 ROW can use all the available EB3 ROW numbers. But the unused EB2 (ROW/Mex/Phil) have been distributed to the oversubscribed countries.
That's how I interpret that.
The popular belief was that the unused EB2 ROW would first go EB3 ROW but according to this they actually go to the oversubscribed countries in the same category (EB2)
USCIS must have changed their policy to help established the cutoff date for EB2 India. so now the spill over from EB2 ROW goes to China and India EB2
No, EB3 ROW can use all the available EB3 ROW numbers. But the unused EB2 (ROW/Mex/Phil) have been distributed to the oversubscribed countries.
That's how I interpret that.
The popular belief was that the unused EB2 ROW would first go EB3 ROW but according to this they actually go to the oversubscribed countries in the same category (EB2)
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chanduv23
03-13 11:48 AM
I completely disagree with your message here. You dont even know what the personal reason for not participating in a state chapter is. I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
The primary reason for disconnects and inability towards working in structure is because IV is primarily a volunteer organization and everyone are unpaid volunteers.
I agree that a lot of State chapters are not functional. some of them were reborn after death, some are very active some are not - as a matter of fact I lead the Tri State chapter and this had to be reborn as it was lead by someone else before and they did what they could and gave up. Now we have some wonderful chapter members who are really helping out and doing a great job. we combined the 3 states for better numbers and better coordination. the leads have strived very hard and continue to strive hard.
There are times when other things take up priority and the leadership may not be in a position to be active.
I think part of the frustration is because there do not seem to be frequest updates these days.
This is what I recommend. Contact the state chapter leader who is nearest to your state. You can join the state chapter.
For some very important reasons, updates canot be posted on the website.
With regard to eb3_nepa's case - I think he is from Tri State area doors are always open for him to join the state chapter
Like you said, IV is not a top-down organization, which means everyone is responsible for everyone. I dont see anything wrong with eb3_nepa's questions. He wanted to know what is going on. I am sure there are lots of people around here who has the same questions.
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Thank you
The primary reason for disconnects and inability towards working in structure is because IV is primarily a volunteer organization and everyone are unpaid volunteers.
I agree that a lot of State chapters are not functional. some of them were reborn after death, some are very active some are not - as a matter of fact I lead the Tri State chapter and this had to be reborn as it was lead by someone else before and they did what they could and gave up. Now we have some wonderful chapter members who are really helping out and doing a great job. we combined the 3 states for better numbers and better coordination. the leads have strived very hard and continue to strive hard.
There are times when other things take up priority and the leadership may not be in a position to be active.
I think part of the frustration is because there do not seem to be frequest updates these days.
This is what I recommend. Contact the state chapter leader who is nearest to your state. You can join the state chapter.
For some very important reasons, updates canot be posted on the website.
With regard to eb3_nepa's case - I think he is from Tri State area doors are always open for him to join the state chapter
admin
04-07 12:37 PM
Some of us have been asking us how you can contribute money. Our contributions page explains this - http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
gaz
09-17 01:47 PM
roll call going on
OOPS, we need an amendment to change the effective date, Damn.
OOPS, we need an amendment to change the effective date, Damn.
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