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    07-18 09:15 AM
    Date Delivered To USCIS: July 2
    Time Delivered To USCIS: 10.30 AM
    Service Center: TSC
    Rejected: Dont Know

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  • snathan
    04-20 05:00 PM
    In any case, why should someone be SO disturbed if some lawyer says "I will try to prove your degree equivalency for trying to get into EB2"?

    Going by folks' behavior here, I am inclined to think, some simply hate such a lawyer for nothing more than personal interests

    We are all here for personal interests...:D

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    01-31 10:38 AM
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  • cheg
    07-18 10:23 PM
    I think this will answer your question. :)

    My attorney sent the I-485 papers on 7/16 and it reached NSC on 7/17 at 9:36AM. USCIS announcement to accept the applicatons was done on 7/17 evening. Will mine be in the potential rejection pile? Any input will be appreciated.


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  • rajagopal_04
    12-29 01:59 AM
    Posted Dec 28, 2007
    A recent U.S. Department of State (DOS) directive to U.S. consular posts now requires consulting an electronic record for visa issuance in nonimmigrant categories H, L, O, P, and Q. This was first reported to MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers in our December 7, 2007 article, PIMS Verification Required for Certain Nonimmigrant Visas. The verification of visa petition approvals is now carried out through the Petition Information Management Service, known as PIMS, even if a beneficiary takes an original I-797 approval notice to the interview. The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) asked the DOS to clarify the purpose and the functioning of this directive. In response, the DOS provided this important information to AILA members.
    USCIS Must Send KCC Petition Approvals before Visa Issuance
    The new verification system requires that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) send information on all approved petitions requiring visa issuance to the Kentucky Consular Center (KCC), which is part of the DOS. KCC scans and enters all pertinent information including Form I-129, employer support letter, and beneficiary's identification documents into PIMS. KCC also conducts database checks looking for fraud, violations, or other adverse history and records. A petition must be confirmed in PIMS by the U.S. consular post before issuance of the visa. The USCIS has not been transmitting petitions filed for change of status and extension of status to the KCC. Neither have all new petitions for consular processing been transmitted to KCC, resulting in delayed visa issuance to eligible applicants.
    Benefits Provided by New Verification System
    The DOS has indicated that most of the cases approved for visa processing are being entered into PIMS in a matter of hours. As a result of the new directive requiring multiple checks for fraud and other adverse information, the DOS is able to find forged and altered I-797 approval notices for companies that no longer exist or that never existed. In addition, if a visa applicant has neither an original nor copy of an approval notice and the information has been entered into PIMS, no such notice is required for visa issuance. While some posts still require original approval notices, the DOS is developing clear guidelines to eliminate this requirement.
    Negative Effects of New System
    Visa applicants whose information has not been entered into PIMS in a timely manner sometimes have to wait longer than the two days specified for visa issuance. There have been reports from individuals who have had to alter travel plans and arrangements to account for errors and delays in having all of their relevant information entered into PIMS. To remedy this problem, AILA has requested that the DOS provide a mechanism for notifying KCC directly to make sure that all the information on an approved petition is entered into the system before a beneficiary applies for a visa.
    The DOS has indicated that it is willing to develop a mechanism to address any negative effects of the new requirement to verify petition approval information before issuing a visa in certain types of nonimmigrant petitions. MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers will be updated on this important matter when there are new developments.

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  • pappu
    04-28 10:09 AM
    One more point:

    Know when your GC and passport expires so that you can renew it. :)

    Getting a GC does not mean you can ignore all your immigration issues.


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    01-31 01:29 PM
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  • mpadapa
    09-17 10:57 AM
    The session hasn't started yet. There is a delay since the House is in session. Once the voting on the bill that is currently discussed in the House is over, probably then they will start the meeting..


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  • paskal
    05-23 03:48 PM
    Do what you got to do and let others do what they think is right. I don't think there is one Success mantra here...because we are yet to be successful.

    Honestly, I agree with you...but the underlying fact is some people get motivated for calling the senators and some for anonymous fax/email/flowers and some for rallies. There is definitely a subset who does all...but unless you are a Gandhi/MLK/JFK/'s hard to drive people in one route.

    Just a thought...

    one of the reasons we have not succeeded is precisely because folks want to use their own "intellect" and not do what "IV" needs when it really needs you.
    we do all of the above and more. if you like something more than the other that's perfectly fine and dandy. but if we can't collect a critical mass for an action, we lose effectiveness and shoot ourselves in the foot.
    in a group this large you simply have to help the commom action and agenda for success. each opinion is important but at the end of the day the common action must be done by all, as far as possible.

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  • Dipika
    09-17 11:18 AM
    Help me Gurus!

    we had Infopass appt. IO said your case is pre-adjudicated and under Review. we ask how long will it take to review? He said - doesn't know. can we open SR? He suggested not good to open SR. Reason is they will give same reply - case is under review give us 3 to 6 months. USCIS always tell us to "Not to open SR for Under Review case". Let the petitioner to send latter to request the status directly by sending latter to,
    INS Texas Service Center
    PO Box 851488 - Dept A
    TX 75185 - 1488

    does any one have sent inquiry latter to this address? is it worthful to send latter there?

    One thing is clear that if our app is in "Under Review", means we have to do something to trigger approval. otherwise it will be in Review forever. we had open SR last yeat september and got same reply in May this year. so SR doesn't work.

    Please suggest me what step i should take.


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  • Redeye
    06-11 11:49 AM
    How far can someone go in time and sue somebody for an accident. 18 months seems to long to discover what they claim.....

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    07-30 12:32 AM
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  • calboy78
    08-14 02:31 AM
    Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.

    I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...

    Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.

    Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.

    There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).

    All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.

    For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!

    Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.

    IMHO -
    Your arguments don't hold water because:
    => With a PhD - one can get GC very soon because EB1 is mostly don't say that EB3 are cutting in line.

    => Yes, in his first month PhD can't save as much as the one who had been working full time but in long term a PhD does and will.
    This person has an option of moving to EB2 BUT it is not easy as it sounds ..if person stays with same company, they will be reluctant to file his GC from scratch in EB2...going to another company has its own risk.

    => Then - why the hell EB3 guy did not choose to do his PhD ? - Well, people do things depending upon circumstances ..they might have family with 2 kids...they can't do PhD with that bare minimum stipend; They might be going along the waves. May be the person is smart and doing work of a PhD already (don't tell me that EB3 people can't do a PhD job ...I have seen people with Bachelor's degree outsmarting PhDs).

    Just because EB3 people did not do PhD - one can't justify their suffering ..they are suffering and its not justified.

    => There might be very very VERY few people who said “my career is over because my gc is delayed” !
    Because of delayed GC, people can't make important decision of their life - like where to stay? In US, In India? where to buy house etc?

    And lastly - I am an EB2; AND in near future planning to move back to India - losing the GC - so I am not speaking in favor of EB3 people because I am EB3 or I am just dying to be in US .. however I am speaking in favor of "what is right". It is not right to screw people by putting them in such a big limbo ...get their GC in 7 to 10 years.

    Try to put yourself in these shoes - After taking all the required courses and passing your thesis ...if somone grills you for another 7 years before giving you the status of "PhD" would it fill like ? Like a "bicentenary man" (Watch the movie, if you haven't)!!

    You said:
    What else could be expected?
    Attack the argument, not the argumentor.

    And in your own words
    ( are an idiot and it is quite obvious from what you had to say, which was absolutely pointless)

    You aren't following your own rules - confused ?

    - Nothing personal - What's right is right !

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  • whatamidoinghere
    02-12 06:22 PM
    visves, Longq, alisa...

    We have a difference of opinion on how the law is interpreted....

    I believe that visves interpretation is correct....But there is always a small chance that longq does followup with a lawsuit, USCIS would budge...

    if longq wants to gather some EB2 India/China and have a crack at suing USCIS as a personal level....( i.e.not using IV's resources).....I guess no one can stop him...I am EB3/India....So that suing does not benefit me anyway...

    The common denominator for all of us is increasing the total numbers......

    If members want to pursue certain things on their own at personal level..I cannot do anything ...after all it is a free country...

    There are other quirky ways the law is getting interpreted. Why are India, China, Phil, Mex singled out in the Visa bulletin and reported separately? Where I work there are as many Russian programmers as Indians and Chinese. Judging from how long it is taking my Russian colleagues to get their green cards even they are retrogressed because it takes them more than 5 years. But because they are bunched with ROW, they are Current in EB2 and can apply for 485 and their spouses can get EAD and work.

    If it is only 2800 visas per category per country.. lets be real.. even UK, Pakistan and other countries will be sending more than that number per year. But they are all bunched in EB2 ROW and can happily apply for EAD for their spouses. Not only that, they can even participate in the diversity visa lottery from which we are excluded.

    The problem is that we are trying to ask for too much and nothing will happen. First we have to get them to be transparent about how they interpret the law and make them release more data. We dont even know if we are being treated fairly. It is also unacceptable that we dont know how long we have to wait before our spouses can work. If we dont have correct data what are we actually fighting for?


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  • stucklabor
    02-08 06:59 AM
    Looking at the table in, it appears that 33% have been certified and 33% have been closed/denied of the present 67% that have been processed. Those are absolute numbers (it is not 33% of 67% closed, it is 33% of the total 330K). Hence of the 220K cases processed, 110K have been certified and 110K closed/denied.

    If the same trend holds, it will be 165K certified (out of a total of 330K). Add the 1.1 multiplying factor and we are looking at 346K total GCs. This is 2.5 years total. But USCIS seems to be sending off excess EB 1-2 visas to EB3 ROW so retrogression will continue for EB2 India and China.

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  • chetanjumani
    03-14 01:16 AM
    Ok. I agree with everything you say but you still haven't explained why EB-2 China hasn't moved. They never were Unavailable, which means they haven't used their quota but are still retrogressed. Why absolutely no relief for them? Not even a month forward movement?

    To be honest, I have no way to know why absolutely no change for China. There have been times earlier where India and China had similar cut out dates, then they changed dramatically, then India became unavailable, and now they are same again. With so much happening, I would say its very difficuilt to have a logical reason with no real data.

    All I can come up is that perhaps China might had a little higher demand than India in the last few months, or just that in case of spill overs, most visas might be consumed by countries most retrogressed, or perhaps DHS believes that the number of visas spill over would be only enough to cover EB2 Inida + EB2 china up to a certain date and China was already at that date, so if the demand is less than expected, then we will see movement in both India and China.

    Wish best for all Employment based filers. Hopefully some law change comes and justice is done to every one.

    I would hate to see different immigrant groups worrying about which group is getting ahead.

    Keep contributing to IV effort and hope no one need to go through extended wait times..........

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  • ak27
    06-14 11:10 AM
    There is no reason for AOS interview. So many people were have been called for interview.. My I-485 is Employment based... I don't have any arrest or anything else on my records... My BC was cleared after 2007 filings so I am not sure why they will delay it second time...

    11-15 03:08 PM
    People will find list of US companies supporting SKILL bill and also trash talk from many citizens. Hope you will enjoy it. Do read the comments, that is where the fun is.

    Boy, almost everyone here feels the foreigners are not wanted. Reminds me of how I used to told by "friendly" (bhadralok) folks in Calcutta's (now Kolkata) buses : Go back to your own "desh"! You come here and take our jobs. At that time it meant your Dad has taken our jobs. Nothing I could do then,and nothing we can do now. Just ignore these folks. Chances are they are the laziest people to be found who blame everyone but themselves for failure.

    11-02 02:45 PM
    I think you got a very good point here.

    If India is really good economically, people from all over the world would be going there and find job.

    There are people from even poorer countries coming to India for education and employment and so.

    I agree that property is getting expensive by second in India, Some times it makes me think, most of us who wants to go back might not go back for wrong economical resons, Don't you think this is what happened to many people who migrated to African countries before Indian Independence. Most of them never visited India in their life time(I attribute most of them to economic reasons). I am not if this is a paradox or anticlimax.

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