willwin
06-13 09:17 AM
you are asking for EB2 guys in 2004,2005,2006,2007 to wait for EB-3 guys in 2001,2002,2003,2004. Point is well taken. Its a humane way of handling things.
Perhaps they should not make EB1 current, let them wait a year or two while 2004 EB2 and 2001 EB3 get their green cards.
Ask this question to yourself. If you were an EB2 person with 2004 priority with a spouse and kid, Would you be willing to wait few more years to get your green cards so that a 2001 EB-3 shall get his faster and may not care /appreciate your sacrifice?
Your position helps yourself and nobody else. I dont have any problems 2001 EB3s getting approved before 2004 EB2's. Thats the way it should be, but not at the expense of EB2's. Feeling of entitlement is not adequate justification. USCIS has established a way to convert to EB2 status, if you have sufficient experience. You can certainly try that option.
I just spoke my mind, dont care if i get red dots or not. Apperantly people here are way too sensitive to an opposite point of view.
Texanguy,
I am in EB3 (I) with a PD of 2005.
I agree that EB3 or for that matter any category should not benefit at the cost of another. But, when it comes to spill over, I personally feel that the numbers should be equally distributed among all retrogrossed countries and categories.
If there are 20,000 numbers that DOS thinks will not be used in the current FY; then let it distribute equally to all categories. Say if EB2 and EB3 (I) or China gets 5000 each, then obviosuly, because of a shorter queue EB2 dates would move forward beyond EB3 does. I think this is fair.
Whether a humane approach or a logic approach, it does not make sense for a EB3 (or any category) to wait for 7 years!!!
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Perhaps they should not make EB1 current, let them wait a year or two while 2004 EB2 and 2001 EB3 get their green cards.
Ask this question to yourself. If you were an EB2 person with 2004 priority with a spouse and kid, Would you be willing to wait few more years to get your green cards so that a 2001 EB-3 shall get his faster and may not care /appreciate your sacrifice?
Your position helps yourself and nobody else. I dont have any problems 2001 EB3s getting approved before 2004 EB2's. Thats the way it should be, but not at the expense of EB2's. Feeling of entitlement is not adequate justification. USCIS has established a way to convert to EB2 status, if you have sufficient experience. You can certainly try that option.
I just spoke my mind, dont care if i get red dots or not. Apperantly people here are way too sensitive to an opposite point of view.
Texanguy,
I am in EB3 (I) with a PD of 2005.
I agree that EB3 or for that matter any category should not benefit at the cost of another. But, when it comes to spill over, I personally feel that the numbers should be equally distributed among all retrogrossed countries and categories.
If there are 20,000 numbers that DOS thinks will not be used in the current FY; then let it distribute equally to all categories. Say if EB2 and EB3 (I) or China gets 5000 each, then obviosuly, because of a shorter queue EB2 dates would move forward beyond EB3 does. I think this is fair.
Whether a humane approach or a logic approach, it does not make sense for a EB3 (or any category) to wait for 7 years!!!
BTW, I turned you green. Be happy :-)
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eb3_nepa
02-05 04:07 PM
I don't think the only reason is "wife's cannot work".. The other reason for most is changing employers, and career growth while I-485 is in process.
You can keep changing employers once your I-140 is approved. You need to restart ur GC process but you can keep ur PD (if not revoked) and get a 3 year extension immediately based on the Approved I-140.
Sure it's not the best case scenario, but atleast you CAN do it. But for most married folk their spouses on H4 CANNOT work without EADs or waiting a year till the H1 quota opens. Even with the quota opening unless your spouse is into business or IT it is VERY tough to get an H1 for the spouse.
You can keep changing employers once your I-140 is approved. You need to restart ur GC process but you can keep ur PD (if not revoked) and get a 3 year extension immediately based on the Approved I-140.
Sure it's not the best case scenario, but atleast you CAN do it. But for most married folk their spouses on H4 CANNOT work without EADs or waiting a year till the H1 quota opens. Even with the quota opening unless your spouse is into business or IT it is VERY tough to get an H1 for the spouse.
ujjvalkoul
05-24 01:34 PM
Guys , I want to setup a poll for finding out how many of us would leave US if this bill passes w/o our provisions....how to setup a poll ...can some one set it up..
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Lasantha
09-25 09:15 AM
Just curious. Why do you claim ROW is receiving preferential treatment over India when all the countries get the same upper limit of the visas. Now if the Indians ask for more visas just because there are more Indians asking for green cards, wouldn't that be preferential treatment? :)
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
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getgreensoon1
04-20 12:06 PM
Can someone please give a GC immediately to getgreensoon1 so that he can get off this forum for good and not talk BS anymore :D
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santb1975
01-30 05:07 PM
it is at 22 now. I will post this on the so.Cal chapter
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mhathi
11-06 01:31 PM
Well Said! I support you 100% and agree with you totally about this. Fraud is any program is unfair and unjust on everybody, including the H1 holders themselves.
Actually, not all he said was wrong.
We should not support what these IT consulting companies are doing with H1B programme just because we are on H1. These big companies are hoarding H1B visas so they can have an upperhand when dealing with the employees.
My own employer was trying to get as many H1s as possible without having ANY work for them. They sent us all a few emails asking us if we had any family or friends back home who want to come to US on H1. These guys make the H1 applicants pay for the application expenses, then just keep them there or get them here and keep them on bench and almost everybody here is familiar with what happens next.
Think from an American's point of view.. It is THEIR country, THEY make the laws that benefit their society and economy.. they have all the right to stand up against these practices by foreign based companies..
I like his statement "H1B is supposed to be used when there IS a job but no American to do it" What these Consulting companies have turned it into is "There is a person on H1B avaliable If and when there is a job to do" OR worse "There is an H1B holder available, on bench, but no job to do"
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
Actually, not all he said was wrong.
We should not support what these IT consulting companies are doing with H1B programme just because we are on H1. These big companies are hoarding H1B visas so they can have an upperhand when dealing with the employees.
My own employer was trying to get as many H1s as possible without having ANY work for them. They sent us all a few emails asking us if we had any family or friends back home who want to come to US on H1. These guys make the H1 applicants pay for the application expenses, then just keep them there or get them here and keep them on bench and almost everybody here is familiar with what happens next.
Think from an American's point of view.. It is THEIR country, THEY make the laws that benefit their society and economy.. they have all the right to stand up against these practices by foreign based companies..
I like his statement "H1B is supposed to be used when there IS a job but no American to do it" What these Consulting companies have turned it into is "There is a person on H1B avaliable If and when there is a job to do" OR worse "There is an H1B holder available, on bench, but no job to do"
I totally support reform in the H1 process with a target to reduce fraud. That will ultimately benefit people like us who will come here on H1B in future.
Please don't fire me for taking his side, I'm not. I'm in favour of market deciding what it needs, but I'm 100% against fraud, and all of know these so called consulting companies ARE indulging in fraud..
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sathyaraj
11-06 01:59 PM
Sen Grassley makes sense to me. It looks like he has thorughly studied the program. If he is really concerned to stop the abuse in H1B program then
a. H1B visa should be decreased
b. EB visas should be doubled
c. Current backlog should be cleared by recapturing visas.
If we are all on the same level playing field, then there will not be a chance of lower wages & the employers will only recruit based on true skills.
In either case, Americans need to be more competitive, rather than just crying that I am replaced by a H1-B. Why would any employer sponsor an H1B visa when he has equally qualified US citizen.
Hope the senator understands both the sides of the same coin, just reforming H1B will not help much. It will result in outsourcing. EB visas should be doubled.
a. H1B visa should be decreased
b. EB visas should be doubled
c. Current backlog should be cleared by recapturing visas.
If we are all on the same level playing field, then there will not be a chance of lower wages & the employers will only recruit based on true skills.
In either case, Americans need to be more competitive, rather than just crying that I am replaced by a H1-B. Why would any employer sponsor an H1B visa when he has equally qualified US citizen.
Hope the senator understands both the sides of the same coin, just reforming H1B will not help much. It will result in outsourcing. EB visas should be doubled.
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deardar
08-25 11:16 AM
Just close your a/c and open with an other bank.
There is no point waging a useless battle with those folks.
Try someother option.
There is no point waging a useless battle with those folks.
Try someother option.
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logiclife
02-13 05:36 PM
As mentioned In Logiclifes first post in this forum,
Organizations who have Millions of dollar In budget for pushing and lobbying their Issues failed also for whatever reason ( He did not mention reasons ).
Does that mean that having a fat budget does not Impact the outcome ?
What It proves Is Its really the Politics, election, People's focus on the Issue which matters and NOT the lobbying with big fat budget.
And If its the case then our issue will be taken care of on its own merit when all above factors are in our favour, regardless of lobbying.
Just a thought, I hope I am not upsetting the general trend of praising efforts.
It was thru lobbying (on which contributions were spent) that we got provisions added the the Senate's comprehensive Immigration reform last year. Without lobbying, all that would not have happened. No other group, industry, company or organization was working to remove the hard cap on country quotas in EB immigration. It was exclusively by IV and QGA's efforts.
Under certain circumstances , like the ones that existed last year with Jim Sensenbrenner as the House Judiciary Commitee chair , yes, even 10 million dollars spent in lobbying in one year cannot achieve even the smallest amount of law-change or regulation. No matter how you approach things, you cannot bypass House Judiciary committee regarding immigration provision. And you cannot bypass the chairman of that committee.
However, things have changed significantly this year and that is why every effort done this year will make a difference. Biggest portion of the effort is lobbying and it can work if its given time and done patiently. And yes we do need contributions for that.
Organizations who have Millions of dollar In budget for pushing and lobbying their Issues failed also for whatever reason ( He did not mention reasons ).
Does that mean that having a fat budget does not Impact the outcome ?
What It proves Is Its really the Politics, election, People's focus on the Issue which matters and NOT the lobbying with big fat budget.
And If its the case then our issue will be taken care of on its own merit when all above factors are in our favour, regardless of lobbying.
Just a thought, I hope I am not upsetting the general trend of praising efforts.
It was thru lobbying (on which contributions were spent) that we got provisions added the the Senate's comprehensive Immigration reform last year. Without lobbying, all that would not have happened. No other group, industry, company or organization was working to remove the hard cap on country quotas in EB immigration. It was exclusively by IV and QGA's efforts.
Under certain circumstances , like the ones that existed last year with Jim Sensenbrenner as the House Judiciary Commitee chair , yes, even 10 million dollars spent in lobbying in one year cannot achieve even the smallest amount of law-change or regulation. No matter how you approach things, you cannot bypass House Judiciary committee regarding immigration provision. And you cannot bypass the chairman of that committee.
However, things have changed significantly this year and that is why every effort done this year will make a difference. Biggest portion of the effort is lobbying and it can work if its given time and done patiently. And yes we do need contributions for that.
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justAnotherFile
07-18 11:52 AM
Data seems promising so far.. no evidence of rejection yet..
btw Update from my attorney..
"..no rejections received for any of the applications filed by us in July. I do not believe we need to file a second application."
btw Update from my attorney..
"..no rejections received for any of the applications filed by us in July. I do not believe we need to file a second application."
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casinoroyale
02-11 01:26 PM
I did paid consultation to find answer to this question with murthy office. As per them, one can do transfer and extension of H1B even after using AP as long as the current I-797 is still valid.
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Hassan11
03-13 04:12 PM
this must be a change in USCIS policy since in the past the spill over from EB2 ROW went to EB3 ROW and then to India and China EB2.
USCIS must have changed their policy to help established the cutoff date for EB2 India. so now the spill over from EB2 ROW goes to China and India EB2
No, EB3 ROW can use all the available EB3 ROW numbers. But the unused EB2 (ROW/Mex/Phil) have been distributed to the oversubscribed countries.
That's how I interpret that.
The popular belief was that the unused EB2 ROW would first go EB3 ROW but according to this they actually go to the oversubscribed countries in the same category (EB2)
USCIS must have changed their policy to help established the cutoff date for EB2 India. so now the spill over from EB2 ROW goes to China and India EB2
No, EB3 ROW can use all the available EB3 ROW numbers. But the unused EB2 (ROW/Mex/Phil) have been distributed to the oversubscribed countries.
That's how I interpret that.
The popular belief was that the unused EB2 ROW would first go EB3 ROW but according to this they actually go to the oversubscribed countries in the same category (EB2)
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sreenivas11
02-11 02:33 PM
AP i94 valid upto Mar 2009(After returning on AP)
H1 i94 valid upto June 2011
Can I still work on existing H1?
Which i94 valid(AP or H1)?
H1 i94 valid upto June 2011
Can I still work on existing H1?
Which i94 valid(AP or H1)?
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javadeveloper
11-25 08:10 AM
What are the steps to follow to switch over to EAD, do i have to fill out some form and how do i i nform uscis ?
Use EAD for working by filling I-9 form with your employer.Informing USCIS is optional.
Use EAD for working by filling I-9 form with your employer.Informing USCIS is optional.
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gc28262
11-02 04:11 PM
Guys,
There are lot of anti-immigrants on this forum. You can identify them by their agendas. Don't try to reply to those morons. Get on to their forums and reply if you feel like replying.
Don't waste your energy replying to them on this forum.
Please analyze the posts from "villamonte6100 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/member.php?u=6470)". He is one of them.
There are lot of anti-immigrants on this forum. You can identify them by their agendas. Don't try to reply to those morons. Get on to their forums and reply if you feel like replying.
Don't waste your energy replying to them on this forum.
Please analyze the posts from "villamonte6100 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/member.php?u=6470)". He is one of them.
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santb1975
12-01 03:26 PM
I was thinking about this today.
All great Ideas and we are never short of Ideas on this website. However, we are always short of commited people who are willing to put in time and make their Ideas become a reality. We sure are 25,000 real members and If each of us commit 10$ every month diligently we have a consistent cash flow of $250,000 every month and committing 10$ every month is not hard at all. All of us in here are highly skilled, we all have decent paying jobs and we are definately not cheap labor because we have US Department of Labor (DOL) certifying our salary before we take up any Job in this great land.
Would you be willing to the lead on making your Ideas become a reality. We have very few highly committed members in here who can provide support and guidance.
We have already guided a few people on how to donate amounts less than the ones that are posted on this website and it is really simple. Any amount can be sent in as a donation through paypal to donations@immigrationvoice.org
Folks,
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
All great Ideas and we are never short of Ideas on this website. However, we are always short of commited people who are willing to put in time and make their Ideas become a reality. We sure are 25,000 real members and If each of us commit 10$ every month diligently we have a consistent cash flow of $250,000 every month and committing 10$ every month is not hard at all. All of us in here are highly skilled, we all have decent paying jobs and we are definately not cheap labor because we have US Department of Labor (DOL) certifying our salary before we take up any Job in this great land.
Would you be willing to the lead on making your Ideas become a reality. We have very few highly committed members in here who can provide support and guidance.
We have already guided a few people on how to donate amounts less than the ones that are posted on this website and it is really simple. Any amount can be sent in as a donation through paypal to donations@immigrationvoice.org
Folks,
I know many of you may have already thought about this at some point. I'll lay out my views on the donations...IV can object/correct.
I'm following the donations thread along with many of you and there is not much to be excited there.2000$ in 2 weeks....for all the Agenda that pappu has posted. I understand that everyone(including me)...will have limited resources at our disposal every month...may it be mortgage/daycare/medical/school or those unexpected repairs...so the bottom line is there is not much room to increase our monthly contributions or...holiday contributions.
I was thinking...we are 25000 'real' people...and there are more than one visit by each person to this site.
1. Can IV use any space to advertise...so that IV can get some AD Money?
2. Is it possible to get some space on popular pro-immigrant or immigrant driven websites...to donate to our cause?
3. Would it be possible to split the donation denominations further down...like 5 dollars..or even low..so that all immigrants...including people who got the GC's/Citizenship can contribute with out looking deeper into their pockets.
4. Optional....ebay/paypal donation to the peoples questions/answers...Mind you it is totally optional...if you want to donate 5/10/20/100...or how important the question is and hw satisfied the person is with the information...etc
5. DOnation boxes at Immigrant owned grocery stores...with out compromising their principles
Folks, I have layed them out with good intentions...and have also given a thought of what I personally can do for each point above...I'm not expecting the vultures to prey...on the post with mundane comments.
Regards.
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eastindia
01-08 07:47 PM
This shows that the backlog is more than the numbers on USCIS website. People need to stop wasting time on tracking and spend time in their office work. Backlog means more business money for lawyers and trackers. IV is very small. Unless IV had hundreds of thousands of members, they cannot do lobbying like AILA or Microsoft. EB3 India and now EB3ROW is in a pitiable state. All those EB3ROW who used to be happy will now see the reality. Thank god I ported to EB2 but the dates for EB2 do not move enough. I think anyone who can should port to EB2 ASAP. This is the only solution.
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12samanta
06-06 04:18 PM
I called all of them yesterday.
GC_sufferer
07-10 12:10 PM
His information is very clear, USCIS is HOLDING applications, but we don't know they will "ACCEPT" application.
I can trust this guy because of his recent past blogs which turned true.
Can i celebrate? I want to.
I can trust this guy because of his recent past blogs which turned true.
Can i celebrate? I want to.
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